why the burka?

[docj227]

i'm sure we all noticed how jill carroll was dressed during her press conference. what , if any explanation was given? here is an american christian woman sporting garb most befitting of the wives of her captors. is it the.... effect(oslo effect ) did she convert to islam while in captivity? did she have no other clothing?

[al-Canine]

From what I have read, Jill Carroll routinely adopted the mode of dress of her Islamic surroundings long before she was kidnapped. See pic in original thread (http://www.wincoast.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24062).

Perhaps this attempt to "assimilate" under the circumstances is what helped her to survive her ordeal by making her appear more sympathetic towards her captors.

[Hound]

I believe she speaks arabic as well. Taken with the burka, she probably got interviews most western journalists couldn't hope for.

[NoFate]

Isn't it a hijab, and not a burqa?

Hijab is standard dress for the region..."when in Rome..."

Not very many people would dress dramatically different than the local population as a visitor in any country. Most don't want to draw that much attention especially where there may be serious consequences for doing so.

[kjo]

Also found it interesting that she said "they never hit me or threaten to hit me"...for some odd reason I find this non believable.

[registered]

Also found it interesting that she said "they never hit me or threaten to hit me"...for some odd reason I find this non believable.
why not?

[kjo]

why not?
Every other American has been killed or tortued for some reason or another, why not her? If they kidnapped her in the first place and then say they were going to "kill" her, why wouldn't they tortue her? These men (not all) seem like they get their kicks doing this stuff. BUT why a sudden change? I'm sorry but I'm guessing some men over there beat their wives, so why wouldn't they want to beat on the one thing they hate the most, an American (who happens to be a woman).

[registered]

Every other American has been killed or tortued for some reason or another, why not her? If they kidnapped her in the first place and then say they were going to "kill" her, why wouldn't they tortue her? These men (not all) seem like they get their kicks doing this stuff. BUT why a sudden change? I'm sorry but I'm guessing some men over there beat their wives, so why wouldn't they want to beat on the one thing they hate the most, an American (who happens to be a woman).
first you can take a look at beating wives topic here http://www.answering-christianity.com/beating.htm

and for those groups who kidnap americans their main aim is to release the iraqi prisoners they just use them as a card to make the US listen to them and there is no reason to torture them cuz they are not armed and they cannot defend themselves

[kjo]

first you can take a look at beating wives topic here http://www.answering-christianity.com/beating.htm

and for those groups who kidnap americans their main aim is to release the iraqi prisoners they just use them as a card to make the US listen to them and there is no reason to torture them cuz they are not armed and they cannot defend themselves
NEVER said Christians didn't beat their wives, so yeah.


Um, if they can't defend themselves why even kill them????? HUH???? That makes no sense, sorry.

[Alli]

So why was she terrified and crying savagely for the cameras, if nothing to fear :confused:

[registered]

NEVER said Christians didn't beat their wives, so yeah.


Um, if they can't defend themselves why even kill them????? HUH???? That makes no sense, sorry.
so what now? the captors asked for legal things and threatened of killing the hostage the american gov. didnt care for its ppl lives so what you want the captors to do? release her?

[kjo]

so what now? the captors asked for legal things and threatened of killing the hostage the american gov. didnt care for its ppl lives so what you want the captors to do? release her?
you didn't even come close to answering my question.

[candypreet]

Isn't it a hijab, and not a burqa?

Hijab is standard dress for the region..."when in Rome..."

Not very many people would dress dramatically different than the local population as a visitor in any country. Most don't want to draw that much attention especially where there may be serious consequences for doing so.

hijab is in middle east, while the burkha is prevalent in India/ Pakistan.
Burkha covers a women from head to toe

[docj227]

i'm sorry if i had the wrong name of the garment, but you get my drift. there are lots of americans over there, and they dress in western garb. why is she doing a press conference in middle eastern clothing?

[NoFate]

i'm sorry if i had the wrong name of the garment, but you get my drift. there are lots of americans over there, and they dress in western garb. why is she doing a press conference in middle eastern clothing?
maybe she's more comfortable that way
(that's one way to think of it. heh.)

[NYer]

Perhaps This (http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/w-me/2006/mar/31/033105005.html) has something to do with it.

[Kanuckistan]

Maybe she was trying to show them that she can wear their clothes while she is there country, and they could adopt our clothes when they come here.

Good woman.

[NYer]

Seems a classic case of Stockholm Syndrome ...

http://thecia.com.au/reviews/g/images/guerrilla-the-taking-of-patty-hearst-0.jpg
Patricia Hearst Surveillance Tape

[docj227]

that's funny. i was trying to come up with the term the other day, and all i could come up with was "oslo syndrome". i guess i was close.

[NoFate]

"survival" might be on target

[NYer]

Jill Carroll has repudiated her previous statement (http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/04/01/D8GNF0B00.html).

During my last night of captivity, my captors forced me to participate in a propaganda video. They told me they would be released if I cooperated. I was living in a threatening environment, under their control, and I wanted to go home alive. So I agreed.

Things that I was forced to say while captive are now being taken by some as an accurate reflection of my personal views. They are not. The people who kidnapped me and murdered Alan Enwiya are criminals, at best. They robbed Alan of his life and devastated his family. They put me, my family and my friends _ all those around the world _ who have prayed so fervently for my release _ through a horrific experience. I was, and remain, deeply angry with the people who did this.

I also gave a TV interview to the Iraqi Islamic Party shortly after my release. The party had promised me the interview would never be broadcast or aired on television, and they broke their word. At any rate, fearing retribution from my captors, I did not speak freely. Out of fear I said I wasn’t threatened. In fact, I was threatened many times.

Also, at least two false statements about me have been widely aired: One, that I refused to travel and cooperate with the U.S. military and two, that I refused to discuss my captivity with U.S. officials. Again, neither statement is true.

I want to be judged as a journalist, not as a hostage. I remain as committed as ever to fairness and accuracy _ to discovering the truth _ and so I will not engage in polemics. But let me be clear: I abhor all who kidnap and murder civilians, and my captors are clearly guilty of both crimes.

[kjo]

I know it!